I was told that I would need to change my dress pants and suit jacket as a matching two-piece suit was mandatory for stage assignments. I just laughed and said, "I don't have one of those." He said, 'Oh, well, okay' and never mentioned it again. Same thing happened with my handlebar mustache with soul patch, told I couldn't have privileges in the congregation while I had it. I said "Show me the scripture and I'll see what I can do" and got the same response. No 'privileges' taken away, never mentioned again. I was mentally in at the time, but I don't think I'd push that envelope nowadays, I just want to stay under the radar for the most part, not give 'cause for stumbling' if it isn't necessary, save it for the important stuff.
neat blue dog
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What immodest clothing have you got in trouble for wearing?
by Addison0998 ini personally have a very distinct sense of style and fashion which many of the fellow jdubs frown upon.
recently, i was told by a few specially self righteous ones that i looked like a prostitute in a pair of white boots!
a pair of 3 inch heeled, just a little taller than the ankle boots, with skirt that came down to my knees and a black long sleeve shirt that came up to my collarbone.
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Convention statistic
by dothemath inthe wife got back from the convention, and mentioned one point from the co talk.. he gave the statistic that on average, there are about 780 people baptized every day in the world!
everyone was amazed.. i broke it to her that there used to be a lot more.
i recall giving a talk and at that time there were around 1200/day.
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neat blue dog
You can recite figures til you're blue in the face and some JWs will still not comprehend. When I pointed these things out, a JW replied to me, 'Well thousands are baptized every week. It's better to think of it by the week'. Seriously. That's the mentality or lack of it we're up against.
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Convention statistic
by dothemath inthe wife got back from the convention, and mentioned one point from the co talk.. he gave the statistic that on average, there are about 780 people baptized every day in the world!
everyone was amazed.. i broke it to her that there used to be a lot more.
i recall giving a talk and at that time there were around 1200/day.
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neat blue dog
And out of the relatively few adults getting baptized, most that I've seen had contact with or were influenced by JWs when young, just taking longer to get baptized.
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Convention statistic
by dothemath inthe wife got back from the convention, and mentioned one point from the co talk.. he gave the statistic that on average, there are about 780 people baptized every day in the world!
everyone was amazed.. i broke it to her that there used to be a lot more.
i recall giving a talk and at that time there were around 1200/day.
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neat blue dog
Compare that to the hundreds of thousands who are born and die every day, and JWs aren't even making a dent. It's a losing battle, and only those who surrender their critical thinking skills could be impressed by such a number.
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JWFacts is incorrect about "Holy Spirit". Do YOU know about the 40 or so years the WT taught there was NO holy spirit?
by Bad_Wolf ini did my own extensive research as i was getting out, and by exploring actual changes and mentions of core doctrine, i learned how it came about that the gb teach that only they know the truth and only they get holy spirit.
i was checking if jwfacts had it, and although they mention many older articles, it seems they didn't realize they taught there was no holy spirit.
this was a real big eye opener for me, so thought i'd share it, and curious if any of you knew about this yourselves????.
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neat blue dog
Interesting that besides hour requirements, pioneers also had return visit and study requirements, a minimum number. It's very telling this doesn't exist today. That just wouldn't work, seeing as much of pioneers time nowadays is made with filler like sitting at carts, driving around, construction or other non-field service that can be counted, etc.
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Time matters
by I Faded Twice ina few years back i was in a meeting between fades and it was the co visit.
he said something i thought was crazy and a lot of jws buy into this mentality.
i don't remember the talk but he asked this question.. what if this isn't the truth?
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neat blue dog
Yes I've heard that line before about 'even if it isn't the truth', and it probably says a lot about the one saying it. Most JWs have doubts, it's only natural, they just can't say it blatantly or they'll be classified as "weak".
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China persecution - not JWs
by neat blue dog inhttp://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/09/10/chinese-officials-burn-bibles-close-churches-force-christian-to-denounce-faith-amid-escalating-crackdown.amp.html.
here's another story of christian persecution where the subjects are not jws.
they even have the old trope of being forced to sign a paper renouncing their faith!
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neat blue dog
Here's another story of Christian persecution where the subjects are NOT JWs. They even have the old trope of being forced to sign a paper renouncing their faith! Might be good to point out to JWs who think they're so special and targeted by Satan.
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What was the EXACT exJW website you first visited and why EXACTLY did you visit it?
by ILoveTTATT2 ini had two episodes of visiting exjw websites:one time around 2007 when i just googled "jehovah´s witnesses" and dared to look at those sites.
i was scared and i promised myself i would never come back to them.
however, that one didn´t really count.the moment that woke me up was this:i got to know that whitney heichel was a jw and murdered by another jw, because i overheard that conversation in a kingdom hall.i looked up the news and in one of the news comments, there was one where an exjw was complaining that they were hijacking her funeral and they were really trying to downplay the fact that her murderer was a jw... and then it said "visit jwfacts.com"... which i did.and the rest... is history.what exactly got you onto an apostate website when you woke up?
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neat blue dog
Like stuckinarut2 the first stuff I saw was JWs own crazy old publications. About 2010 I got internet for the first time and was just getting used to it. I googled Jehovah's Witnesses out of curiosity and among the first sites I saw were the crazy ones that scream at you with multi colored fonts, all caps, no paragraphs, black backgrounds, pictures of the pyramid and theories about JWs being Satan worshippers. This turned me into a JW defender for a few years, debating with ex-JWs online. It wasn't long before I came across more logical information that I could confirm, and eventually I got to the point where I could no longer defend the religion and actually began to have a hatred for it.
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Watchtower disputes $200K tax bill from Newburgh
by Rattigan350 inhttp://www.recordonline.com/news/20180904/watchtower-disputes-200k-tax-bill-from-newburgh.
town of newburgh — the watchtower bible and tract society of new york is challenging nearly $200,000 in fire and other special district taxes assessed for three town of newburgh properties, including two hotels the organization bought to house volunteers helping build its world headquarters in warwick.. in a petition filed in orange county court last month, the umbrella organization for jehovah’s witnesses claimed that the town “either unintentionally as a mistake or intentionally and without lawful authority” miscoded the former hilton on crossroads court and the former hampton inn on route 300 for 2016, 2017 and this year.. with a combined market value of nearly $23 million, the hotel properties were not assessed town, county and school taxes for those years.
but the town assessed $196,000 charges for the orange lake fire district and lighting and water districts during those years.. newburgh also assessed $1,600 in special district taxes over three years for a vacant commercial property watchtower owns at route 17k and route 300.. “petitioner would not be required to pay the resulting unjust charges if its exemption from taxes had been justly, correctly, and lawfully granted and administered,” watchtower’s attorneys wrote in the organization’s petition in county court.. watchtower bought the two hotel properties in 2014 as it built its 1.6 million-square-foot headquarters on kings drive in warwick.
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neat blue dog
The exemption is only for those that contribute to the
moral or mental improvement of men, women or children
So right there, they're disqualified.
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Not viewed as a JW if not reported for 6 months?
by kramer inhi, i seem to remember that the society have said that you are not viewed as a witness if you have not reported for 6 months.. does this ring any bells?
someone i know has been called for a judicial, even though she has said she doesn’t believe and is not not attending meetings and hasn’t for 6 months.what she did was 12 months ago when she was a witness.. she is not sure whether she should turn up or not, as turning up shows she thinks she answers to elders still.
but also doesn’t want to be automatically disfellowshipped which may happen if she doesn’t turn up.. if there is an article to quote saying someone inactive isn’t seen as a witness, this would be helpful.. any thoughts?.
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neat blue dog
It's funny, they're a little like a debt collector. You can't pay even a penny or they'll view that as resuming your debt.